Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Update on Multiplayer - June 2014

As most of you already know, we are working on a new multiplayer experience that will take Infinite Flight to new heights for flight simulation enthusiasts around the world.

Designing and implementing such a feature is not easy and takes time to develop and test, this is why we decided to keep you in the loop. In this post we will give you a bit more details about some of its aspects.

With this new feature we are introducing 2 modes for enjoying Infinite Flight:
  • Solo: this is how you are playing Infinite Flight right now
  • Live: this mode will let you fly online with everyone else.
In order to ensure a good experience, we added the concept of Airspace in our Live mode. Similar to real life, airspace limit who can fly in the busiest airports. In order to determine who is allowed to enter certain airspace, each pilot has a "Standing" (percentage): with a good standing you will be able to takeoff and land at all airports and with a bad standing you will be limited to small regional airports this way new pilots can learn without getting in the way of experienced ones who follow procedures in larger airports.
All new pilots will start with a 50% standing and for now there are 2 ways to increase it:
  • Logging more flight time
  • Performing more successful landings (faster)
However there are a number of ways a pilot's standing can go down, we call them "violations":
  • Exceeding maximum taxi speed
  • Exceeding maximum airspeed when flying below 10000 feet
  • Landing on runway too small for aircraft type
  • Entering airspace that require higher standing
  • Performing aerobatics in proximity of an airport
Another metric we are introducing is XP (experience). This is something that will increase at the end of each flight depending on the length of the flight, the number of successful landings and also the number of violations. XP will allow you to compare your skill against other pilots and we also might use it for other simulation related mechanics.

Of course all of this is subject to change and we will give you more details later down the road; Feel free to already send us feedback and suggestions :)

One last thing before we wrap this up; a lot of people have been wondering if the Infinite Flight Multiplayer feature will be free or paid; as much as we would love to provide everything for free, servers cost a lot of money (thousands of dollars per month) and maintaining them is also not free. Also we want to provide the best experience to users that will be committed to what we are trying to achieve with Infinite Flight. This is why we decided to have a subscription model for our online service. The exact pricing is not yet final so we can't give you a number just yet but this will help us ensure that Infinite Flight will continue to grow and get better for all of the flight simulator enthusiast out there.

For those of you who made it all the way to the end of this post, here are a few shots fresh from our beta showing our progress:









194 comments:

Harry said...

I dislike the idea of a subscription.
I pay for all of the planes and sceneries, and you're now expecting me to pay to use multiplayer?
Money is tight where I am, and I cannot afford to pay a subscription.

Matthew Murray said...

I'm hoping the fee is like $10/year or less. Anything more is unreasonable.

david Copanebi said...

Wow! Amazing and wonderfull
We will help infinite flight By way of paying it as well to help the team develop this great simulation ... thanks admin team and the infinite flight, you are incredible

Vish Seenarain said...

Maybe we can get a trial of 3 days or something.

Anonymous said...

I think this should be a free thing and dont think it should be paid for because you already have to pay for all the planes and scenery.

kyle ss said...

Will we be able to pay just one price like £20 once instead of a subscription cause a lot of people don't really like subscriptions and quite a lot of people just use a google play store card instead of a debit card and u can't do any subscription on a google play store card

William Canty said...

Excellent work guys. I'll pay for it however I think proper runway lighting/taxiway lines etc should be installed first.

Anonymous said...

Matt,

GREAT WORK! I think the user base is generally super excited about this new experience.

In order to prevent decreasing out %, will you be providing the specifications that we must abide by (i.e. landing distance, taxi speed) for each particular aircraft? Also, I think it would be useful to provide takeoff, cruise, and final approach speeds for each aircraft. Many users without aviation experience are left Googling these speeds, or trying to figure out the right speed for each aircraft on their own. This is frustrating as once you figure out one aircraft, you want to stick to that aircraft instead of venturing out to new aircraft. If there was an in-flight window with the requisite specs (i.e. in the new systems tab), a user could easily reference this information and greatly increase user enjoyment.

You guys do a great job. Keep up the good work.

Ahmed Tanveer said...

Well, great work done here by development studio... there are still minor improvements that are required, before it gets to the next level (i.e: multiplayer)...
1)proper runway with precision appraoch lightings (PAPI) and flashing, just like tht used on wings as strobe...
2)taxi marks with numbers and terminals (v imp for multiplayer experience)
3)improved autopilot (inlcuding NAV tht works with flight plan)
4)Auto-Brake: shudnt b hard to add this feature specially in airliners
5)ATC guides n permissions to land (for multiplayer if possible)
6)Landing assessment system...

well, the real fun of flying, is having a feel of realism... like rain effects, cloudy effects, thrusts effects even on environment... and in order to achieve that, v can release various versions for diff platforms, like, for iphone 5S, with increased and improved performance/features(lightings, terminal, advanced weather;supported by A7(64bit) chips)... n a diff for iphone 4....

You guys have already made an amazing app, just keep it up, n keep bringing us more n more :)...

William Hood said...

Nothing comes for free

Rodrigo Sousa said...

I Think I really have to enjoy the Beta because I don't think that I'll fly often on MP because of the Money. I don't think that MP wil only cost $10 a year. I think we will have to pay $10 a month. So, its very sad because I think that not eveybody is going to be able to buy a subscription for a long time. But one Word to the Devs: I really apreciate your work and I knoe you're working very hard to give to us the best experience, but I think that maybe you could make the first week aftet the release free so that newbies can test IF MP before buying a subscription (although I think they'll loving it :D).

Anonymous said...

I love this game and I will love the multiplayer ever more but I think the multiplayer should be free because I spent like 50 bucks buying air planes and scenery I really like this game but on the other hand I dont mind paying a few bucks like 10 at the most but I love this new update. I play x plane 10 and I also think you guys should add better night graphics like at night its just dark you should add city lights cabin lights etc.

Hoho Nip said...

good great

Anonymous said...

Next update after this one, should have a dhc-2 on floats, or a Cessna on floats..

Smooth Cruizer said...

I wish I could fly from the LA or San Francisco area to Seattle, my only wish :(

Tayshin Jamaican said...

Guys infinite flight will be $10 a month I think. That it should be free because we buy the app and the planes and scenery and I already know that a lot of people are not going to be paying for multiplayer

Anonymous said...

$10 a month is RIDICULIOUS! if Flyingdevstudio aims for people to use multiplayer, good luck on that price!

Anonymous said...

Multiplayer has got to be free! I agree.

Anonymous said...

Add YPPF, YPAD & YPED MAPS! please!!!!

Herimanto Suhardi said...

Add on Lukla Airport, ATT 42, ATR 72,Twin otter, dash 7, britain norman,hercules C 130,Fokker 50,please!

Mete Songur said...

Great job but way to many grass and dirt landing strips

Jey_Jey said...

Add ligths to the instrumental panel, when it's flying during night.

Anonymous said...

A subscription is a bad idea. It will make things too complicated and some of us don't like putting our payment information online. Also you guys should highly consider making it possible to fly to different cities. And add in weather effects as well.

Anish Sethi said...

Hey I see me!

Anish Sethi said...

But my brakes weren't working... that's why I was going at 47knts. You guys should fix the 787

Jey_Jey said...

Add lights on the instrumental panel when it's flying during the night, also in the front during landing

Anonymous said...

I hate the idea of subscription...

Zohaib Khan said...

thanks to Dev for letting me in on IF beta! i think i should enjoy it alot because when it is going to be paid subscription, i will not longer be able to buy subscription, i think i couldn't afford this! and i really didn't like paid subscription... btw thanks to Matt and all developers.

John Dese said...

Subscription is a bit of a pain if it's monthly,and understand players that can't afford it. I personally have be responsible for 13 of my friends buying this sim, and Im sure many of you have done the same. So we have given FDS alot of sales just from word of mouth. I do not mind helping out FDS because this is a great sim and will only get better as it grows. I think a $10 per year fee would work for all of us that already have the sim. What I suggest is that the sim itself go up in price, think it's about $6 now. So make the price to buy lets say $10.00 to buy maybe $12.00 then up the price by say a dollar for airfields and aircraft. Now with MPlayer and word of mouth I think the sales would be big. So upping the game price, airfields and aircraft plus only $10 a year for subscription this should cover most budgets. Anyway just and idea....please add to this comment, you may have a better idea.

Matthew Stanciu said...

Many people naturally groan when it comes to paying money for your game, but I like the idea of a subscription. Like they said, not only is developing the game hard and costly, but so are the servers. Infinite Flight servers aren't much different then popular Minecraft servers (which I know from failed attempts to make my server good), for example. If you really think of it, you'll know where the subscription money goes to:
1) First they have to pay for keeping the server up 24/7 with enough slots for players all around the world to go on. That already is a lot of money.
2) Then, they have to pay for heavy protection against heavy attacks, such as ddos attacks on the servers.
3) The biggest thing that makes servers different from just paying once for a plane is servers are a subscription as well, as the article said: Thousands of dollars a month, and that money doesn't come from thin air! Even if everyone bought all the planes and regions in Infinite Flight, the devs would eventually run out of money! A subscription is the only way to keep multiplayer going, and the final price will depend on how may people are playing IF, how many people will likely buy it, and the price of the servers. I'd rather pay a subscription to keep a good game and hard work going on than whine that it should be free, not pay, and have not only the live system, but the whole game itself, disappear.

YOLO GROWTOPIA said...

Where got money , im a student leh

Anonymous said...

Hold it right there ✋! A monthly subscription? We pay for the planes and scenery, but now we have to pay just to gain access to multiplayer? This is extremely ridiculous. That costs way too much money for us to pay and we cannot afford to pay a monthly subscription. Please re-change the policy because we don't want to end up paying too much money. Make multiplayer access for free, or to make more extra money, single payment is the best idea. A monthly payment will not support the company!!

Anonymous said...

We would like to be able to fly from Chicago to Hainan. That is a very long flight!

Anonymous said...

The word "subscription" equals uninstall. Bye bye,

Anonymous said...

Nothing like ripping users off. We all pay for the game and add ons. Make it free

Outlaw262 said...

I already spent on this game more than I have for any other android app, bought all planes bar 3 and 1 scenery. I don't think I'll subscribe for the multiplayer though.
Things I don't like:
Not possible to connect 2 devices directly without servers and distnct profiles. So basically I can't use my 2 devices to be my own traffic, fly in formation with 1 plane set to autopilot and so on. This means on your terms I should pay a subscrption and then hope someone wants to fly where I want to, when I want to... no thanks.
Then there's the rules. Basically I'd have to stress out watching speed and so on all the time, otherwise I'll find myself confined to minor airstrips. I can't even do aerobatics on airports, which, by the way, are the only places of any interest on these barren sceneries you made.
You know what? With all these rules and limitations you should be paying me to fly in multi and not the other way around, as it starts to feel a bit like a job.

Adil Shaikh said...

The idea for a monthly subscription is something that can be understood. But not everyone has the best of capabilities and time so, not everyones going to earn a good standing. As a result he/she wouldn't get to fly major airports which is a total waste of the subscription fee. So please think that out.
Also, please add taxiways, otherwise it's going to be a mess out there!

Anonymous said...

Well.. I think the idea is not going to be that great if the airports still looking so badly. We need 3D airport

Anonymous said...

As they said, the servers cost thousands of dollars. To include for free feels wrong for them.

Anonymous said...

No deberian de cobrar o no algo tan caro debido a que ya pagamos por la aplicacion y la compra de aviones asi como escenarios.

Gracias

Scott Stebbins said...

The idea of paying for a subcription is awful!!! Y'all are already making us pay $5.00/ plane and $5.00/ scenery so paying for online flight with others is horribly unfair to all of us. Then there's the $5.00 fee for the app itself. �� Ugh, Multi player is a great idea but really..? Y'all ll want money for that too?! Geez! !!

Kameron Dumlao said...

It did not come out yet

Anonymous said...

I am looking forward to see this update take place, i am just a bit curious on the price, which i'm not looking forward to be seeing, will it be a one time fee, or a repeated fee per month?

Kameron Dumlao said...

When does the update comes out

Corentin TutoGaming said...

Woouh je pense pas que ne pourrait prendre un abonnement c est dommage sauf si le payement ce passe directement par le Google play continuer comme ceci

Mat2000IPAD said...

je sens que pas beaucoup de monde vont payer alors il y aura que 5 avions sur le serveur et au final, c'est pas interressant

Damon Sellars said...

i like the idea but don't you guys get allot of money from people buying the game. I just got it yesterday and blew out my entire 15 dollar card on the game.

Andranik Galustyan said...

Für alle aus Deutschland. Hier nich ein paar infos auf deutsch
http://www.starmob.de/infinite-flight/

Kameron Dumlao said...

If multiplayer is not free in not playing

Anonymous said...

Instead of whining and ranting. Vote and make your voice count in this survey

-ProfessorX

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1D6FmFU8u05haV5mGQ3MeULlk8voqgLxm-roQn3BBUqo/viewform

jonathan aviles said...

Subscriptions are ok as longest they add buildings and clouds and some turbo props and a few Lear Jet or King Air

Damon Sellars said...

someone need to start a website a raise money so we can get it for free

Ben cook said...

It looks great but no point bringing this out and showing it if we are going to have to pay for it. We pay for the airports and planes can't we have something free for once so we can enjoy everything

Anonymous said...

Who ever wants multiplayer for free go on feedback and vote on it

Samuel Baker said...

Are there new planes too? At this Release

Anonymous said...

I just hate the fact that we have to pay for the subscriptions with our debit cards. Some people here are students like an I don't have a debit but I do have an itune account. No way am I gunna get a debit card for this game. If I can subscribe to multiplayer through itune if it's possible but no way i am gunna get a debit card for this.
Second of all some players might not have the access to the ATC chatter. This means that people who don't have access to it will have to randomly guess where to go regardless how great pilot you are.

Dani FSXBoeing said...

I pay for the app, I pay for all of the paid aircrafts and sceneries, and now, I will paid for the multiplayer access?

Andon Manaj said...

Someone said something in the lines of "not only just the multiplayer, but have the entire game disappear". That my friend, would be too risky as it would be an imvitation for a class action lawsuit in which the developer will have to refund all the customers, pay fines to the government, and maybe if theyre really lucky, one of the multiple retailers will spare them from their fine sanctions. Plus, if you really want to be a successful enterpreneur, you should avoid the bait and switch method at any cost. Not cool, man.

Anonymous said...

Fsx's server's free..... So be like it.

Marc Vinoya said...

Free please and pls the 777 can be available for free pls

Dave12308 said...

If multiplayer is a paid feature, then I disagree about limiting less experienced aviators to smaller airports and stuff. If I am PAYING money to play multiplayer then I do not expect to be told where and when I can fly. I am paying the same as others, so I should be allowed the same experience.

Anonymous said...

To be honest, I totally the percentage idea and how you can increase or decrease it. I also hate the subscription idea, because there is an awful lot already to pay for.
Furthermore, there is no point really of these two ideas, you just want people to enjoy the game and this is not encouraging people to do so.
I hope you take my statement into consideration.

Anonymous said...

*I totally dislike the percentage...

Raine Cutler said...

Unless one of you are paying the money to run the servers how about all of y'all shut your whinin about havin to pay for multiplayer.

flight enthusiast said...

Please improve the graphics of the game first, I thing it is more important first to have better airports with other planes at the taxies, better view at night with more lights on the runways and of course on the cockpit which is too dark. Also the weather conditions, where are the clouds, the rain, etc. And please give us the Airbus A320 which is the most common plane everywhere. Thanks a lot, you are doing very good job!

Anonymous said...

It should be where WE can create servers such as lets say I press a button called new server and it will start out with me, then other players could find my server and join it.

Anonymous said...

I consider paying it a yr than a month that's too much and they going to lose a lot of customers I love my flight simulator caribbean airlines 737

Anonymous said...

Yea I understand that servers cost thousands of dollars, but I see that a lot of people dont like the subscription idea. I know for myself that i couldn't afford to pay subscription anyway so I'm happy flying solo. It'll very cool though if you guys add the SR-71 Blackbird in this simulator. I like this simulator, you guys are doing a really good job on the planes.

Anonymous said...

The most rediculous thing is the monthly subscription.

Anonymous said...

They cannot just charge us everything that we cannot afford to pay. We pay way too much money for all of that stuff but we should also get free rewards for our payments. We've spent so much money already.

Luc said...

Can i get the beta version too?

Anonymous said...

Add more aircraft liveries and more aircraft!


Boeing 777-200ER

American Airlines
United Airlines
Transareo Russian Airlines
Israel Airlines
Korean Air
Korean Air (SkyTeam)
Malaysia Airlines
Egypt Air
Vietnam Airlines
Air India
Asiana Airlines
Lufthansa
Air China
Saudi Arabian Airlines


Airbus A380-800

Vietnam Airlines
Transareo Russian Airlines
China Southern Airlines


Boeing 737-700

Korean Air
American Airlines
United Airlines
Malaysia Airlines
Korean Air (SkyTeam)
US Airways


Boeing 757-200

Delta Airlines
Delta Airlines (SkyTeam)
US Airways


Airbus A330-200

Vietnam Airlines
Vietnam Airlines (SkyTeam)
Korean Air
Delta Airlines
US Airways
Air Canada
Malaysia Airlines


MD-11

American Airlines
Eva Air

Boeing 767-300ER

Eva Air
Eva Air (Star Alliance)
Asiana Airlines
Asiana Airlines (Star Alliance)
Vietnam Airlines
United Airlines
American Airlines
Air Canada
Alitalia
Lot Polish Airlines
Lot Polish Airlines (Star Alliance)



Boeing 747-400


Egypt Air
China Airlines
China Airlines (SkyTeam)
Eva Air
United Airlines
Delta Airlines
ANA (All Nippon Airways)
Korean Air
Asiana Airlines
Air France
Lufthansa
Transareo Russian Airlines
Air China
Thai Airways
Air India
Phillipine Airlines
Cathay Pacific
Saudi Arabian Airlines
Qantas
Air New Zealand
Garuda Indonesia Airlines
Air Canada
British Airways
Virgin Atlantic
Israel Airlines


Boeing 777-300ER

Eva Air
Korean Air
Egypt Air
Phillipine Airlines
Air Canada
British Airways


Boeing 787-900

Japan Airlines
ANA (All Nippon Airways)
Hainan Airlines
Air China
Israel Airlines
United Airlines
Air Canada
Vietnam Airlines
Air India
Egypt Air
Korean Air
British Airways


Airbus A350-900

Vietnam Airlines


Airbus A321

United Airlines
Asiana Airlines
Vietnam Airlines
Vietnam Airlines (SkyTeam)


Boeing 737-800

Korean Air
Korean Air (SkyTeam)
Egypt Air
South African Airways


Boeing 737-400

Korean Air
American Airlines
United Airlines
Delta Airlines
British Airways
AeroMexico


Airbus A340-600

Air Canada

Anonymous said...

More aircraft liveries and more planes!


Airbus A321

Phillipine Airlines


Airbus A340-600

Egypt Air
Phillipine Airlines


Boeing 747-400

KLM Royal Deutch Airlines


Boeing 777-200ER

KLM Royal Deutch Airlines


MD-80

KLM Royal Deutch Airlines
Eva Air Cargo


Boeing 737-700

KLM Royal Deutch Airlines
KLM Royal Deutch Airlines (SkyTeam)


Boeing 737-800

KLM Royal Deutch Airlines


Airbus A330-300

Phillipine Airlines

Anonymous said...

For the 747 i made a video to get other liveries: http://m.youtube.com/results?q=luc%20gruijters&sm=3

Anonymous said...

KLM don't use md 80 and klm skyteam livery is on the 737-900. To get KLM Royal Dutch Airlines livery om the 747-400 chec my video: http://m.youtube.com/results?q=luc%20gruijters&sm=3

Flyguy said...

Add the 737-400 with classic southwest colors

Anonymous said...

Yeah this is not going to work out, paying for multiplayer will only draw users away, many already don't like the idea. The reason why you guys are making a ssubscription for multiplayer is understandable because of the cost to keep up the servers, but I guarantee that the majority of people using Infinite Flight aren't going to use it. A lot of people already spent there money on planes, regions and also this simulator itself. I haven't bought all the planes or regions but I don't have enough money to pay subscription. You guys did a great job on this simulator and the planes, I also would like it if you guys added the blackbird too. That sounds like a really cool addition for infinite flight. Please add it. Even though I won't be able to pay subscription, I'll still use solo flight. Thanks for everything.

Anonymous said...

You're right, my mistake. KLM uses MD-11, not MD-80. But I do know that it uses Boeing 777s and Boeing 747s.

Anonymous said...

Add a KLM Royal Deutch Airlines MD-11.

Anonymous said...

Airbus A319 for Air France and Spirit Airlines.

Wes Taylor said...

I understand the need to use a subscription based system, however if you do that you need to make the regions/planes/liveries unlock with experience.

Anonymous said...

Good that you know that. And its KLM Royal Dutch Airlines and not Royal DEutch Airlines

Anonymous said...

And KLM skyteam livery is on the 737-900 and not the 737-700 and the 777-200 has the klm livery already but the 777-300 has it not

Andy said...
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Andy said...

I understand the need to be able to fund the infrastructure & development behind multi-player but I genuinely think the pricing will need to be low enough to make this work. Personally, I am a casual gamer and unlikely to buy into the subscription model but a trial could always change that. IMHO, I think not having the subscription model but increasing the choice of IAP for new aircraft, regions etc. may be the better option. I don't normally opt for IAP but think with a lot of people interacting in multi-player, the demand for IAP would likely increase as people want to purchase that plane they are sitting behind on the taxi way or get that cool looking livery that they hadn't seen before that just took off. I also think being able to purchase additional regions that you can fly in and out of would be a benefit.

Matthew Burciaga said...

Dont you think its enough already that we had to pay $5 for the game? I love Infinite Flight in all, but now I'm wondering if my money really went to game development or if it went to some vacation you took. Now you guys are acting just like politics.

Samuel Baker said...

June is over where is the update

Алексей Торогар said...

where update 1 june

Anonymous said...

So, when is update? We want more big map, better quality graphics.

EnriqueDominican said...

Is like call of duty your KD goes up or down depend they way you play, I like the idea

Nano Andrew said...

Its perfectly understandable that we have to pay, as other people have said, money does not fall from the sky. But looking at the numbers, i think this is how the subscription payment should work (in my opinion)

Infinite Flight has 100000-500000 downloads.

Lets think negative first. Say its at 150000 now. Out of the 150000 people, its likely that 5-10% will actually buy subscription for multiplayer. Lets say, server is gonna be 2000$. We have anywhere between 7500-15000 users buying the subscription, so when we divide 2000 dollars between 7500 people, its per head.
If it were 15000 people buying, it should be 0.26 a head, plus a little extra for devs. Say 0.50 or 0.75 per head total. If we look at 15000 people buying subscription, the price should divide to 0.13. Let say total of 0.20-0.50.
My math may be wrong, and maybe the number of subscribers is not even close, so maybe for the first month, they should put it anywhere between 0.20-1 dollar, and see how many subscribers they get. They could risk loosing money and put it at 25 cents, and make it more likely for people to buy, or charge 1 dollar, but maybe not attract too many people. In any case, this is not for me or anyone to judge. Its up to the devs.

In any case, thanks for the awesome game and keep it up!

Anonymous said...

I would pay for multiplayer and i already bought all scenerys and planes becuase it is the best flight simulator for android ios windows phone and amazone appstore please make it cost 3,99€

Anonymous said...

Could you make the flight displays like turn coordinator real? like so it would be animated? Thanks

Anonymous said...

Paying for multiplayer must be purchased ones just like play station or x-box games.

Алексей Торогар said...

where update?????

Anonymous said...

I agree with the person above, i feel that there should just be more realism added to the app, and after that you could add multiplayer. I personally would like to see airport buildings, and cities rather than mulitplayer, i'd probably pay for an airport, while i'd never pay a subscription to any app.

Anonymous said...

Servers do not cost thousands dollars for this game I guess. You have hundreds of thousands downlads, if 10% plays online thats tens thousands active players whis can be thousands of sim. players. Looks like hundreds of dollars per month for me.

Have you considered Google Game Services and their online multiplayer which is free?
https://developers.google.com/games/services/common/concepts/realtimeMultiplayer

All thaid said, I am fine paying up to three bucks per month.

Anonymous said...

infinite flight can Use ads on the game for money for the serverd

Andy said...

Personally I think multiplayer being free with a single plane/livery to allow users to test it would be a good idea. Then IAP could be used to purchase new planes & liveries purely for multiplayer. The same could be done with regions.

Anonymous said...

Lets all vote for free multiplayer what's the point of buying the full app if you still gotta pay for multiplayer

Anonymous said...

infinite flight use a server from google you only pay for wath you are using and save money

Anonymous said...

I don't get why people want it free besides the fact it will cost a bit of money.They can pretty much take the game off or multiplayer if they lose huge sums of money.Servers cost money so people should pay and understand that.I know everyone will disagree but we have to learn how to support developers.We all know that you had to pay for planes and so forth.But a subscription will really help them.Ads could help but it wouldn't produce as much money as a subscription would.

Rober Prieto said...

have hacked all features, want to know how? Need a plane or scenery for free?? Ask me to youiopqrst@gmail.com
Note: only root users

Anonymous said...

When will this update come because I can't wait!

Anonymous said...

Oh and can you make a server or is there only one?

Anonymous said...

You know the payment for online subscription is not in public interest? So why not come up with a better deal?

Anonymous said...

Can there be free local wifi or Bluetooth multiplayer to play with my bros

Varun Jaitly said...

Why not have a mode where you are simulating multiplayer....like simulating air traffic and you have to abide by all the rules and laws but its not actually online, its just a bunch of randomly generated plane combos that land and take off and taxi and you can fly in that simulated environment. Obviously the need for taxi lights and guidance, and actual 3D terminals to add realism and another depth to the game. However, adding that simulator mode can give the feel of multiplayer for those who dont want multiplayer.....

Varun Jaitly said...

Also a lot of flight simulator enthusiasts like doing the long haul journeys between two major airports so adding the ability to create a flight plan like that and seeing it through inter-region would really be nice. as well as making the Instrument cluster more usable. Its the little things that will bring in the money you guys want and the attention to detail as well as missions that offer options as far as boarding and how many seats are filled would be cool. Its a simulator so the next step is not to just simulate the basics of flying but the realism of flying a commercial airliner since many of us love the idea, but aren't pursuing it in reality, thats why we buy simulators. Also ATC done side y side with on screen confirmations would be nice "ready to leave- confirm" "taxi to runway 01- confirmed" "cleared for take off ( you get the point) also the mission with the 747 that features G readings for the multiple cabins was very cool and adding that feature in as an optional read out would be very cool.

Anonymous said...

Add Kingair Beechcraft Barons please! They have to be in this wonderful infinite flight sim! :)

Anonymous said...

Why can't it just have a multiplayer type like x plane where it uses a wifi connection so you can play with friends rather then having expensive servers

Anonymous said...

Respect and free rewards only for people who have paid so much money on buying planes and sceneries. We cannot afford to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for what we can keep forever and we deserve to keep it forever if we've paid for all and never have to pay for it again.

Anonymous said...

I'm uninstalling this. I HAVE ENOUGH OF PAYING. goodbye infinite flight simulator... hello gta 5

Joana Tomaz said...

Any news about the release date?! You should offe the first month of multiplayer. Everyone would pay it after traying!

Anonymous said...

Your app is already a paid app and you expect us to pay more? Really bad, I must start looking at alternatives.

Anonymous said...

No other paid apps expect us to pay this much even after purchasing the app. Currently you don't require server, your whole application package is stored on apple server, than why pay for everything inside the app as well after we pay for app. Anyway your game physics are not much realistic anyway. X-Plane is much better. Uninstalling the app now

Anonymous said...

I have hacked all features, want to know how? Need a plane or scenery for free?? Ask me to youiopqrst@gmail.com
Note: only root users

Joseph barck said...

I think airofly FS is actually better and paying for the app and then for every fucking aircraft and then the on-line , jesus...whats the point. its a good game but not that great. lost a fan. bye

Anonymous said...

Liars. A server costs like 20-50 dollars per 50 slots or 100-150 dollars per 120 slots. Oh and why can't you guys host a server for free?? :) No need to buy a Virtual Server.

Anonymous said...

I understand why we should have to pay for the multiplayer, however how about people who have bought a lot of planes and sceneries get a discount because we already have paid a lot for the game. I have spent about $79.00 on this game

Anonymous said...

I am so looking forward to the multiplayer as I think this new feature could really change the entire game!

Kevin Leonard said...

If you guys want money from multiplayer, you won't. Nobody will buy the app and buy multiplayer. If you want people to play on the app then don't put flipping prices on the multiplayer. If you do. Then you will get less money. If you want money, 2 things, 1 don't put prices on multiplayer and 2 you are selfish. You guys have so much money from this app. If you want you want to loose it, then put prices on multiplayer. If you don't then don't. It is up to you rich, selfish, and dirty app makers.

Anonymous said...

When You first buy the Game, does it comes with them Big Commercial Passenger planes or Do you have to buy the Big Passenger planes? Or does it only have them small 2 seater planes for free?

Andy said...

Comes with a good selection of planes for free including many large passenger jets such as Boeing 737, 747 Airbus 380 and many more.

Anonymous said...

Why in the world would anyone buy a paid app and then spend more money on the subscription for multiplayer. You might as well just quit multiplayer or make it free. Then, there won't be people whining about it.

Anonymous said...

I am very excited for multiplayer to come, but I hate the idea of the subscription on it. Srsly, I've spent a lot of money on this game. Give me a break for once!

Anonymous said...

The idea of paying paying a monthly subscription is the # 1 most rediculous. We hate paying a monthly payment just to gain access to multiplayer. We pay for the paid aircraft, regions and for the entire flight simulator itself, and now we have to pay a monthly subscription for multiplayer? Multiplayer really has to be a free reward for all of us because we had to pay so much money on features just for this simulator. Please contact the company and tell them to stop charging us way too much money.

Anonymous said...

If you are paying too much money, tell the Infinite Flight developers to contact the company that we are paying way too much money. To them that "Multiplayer must be free and should also be automatically maintained and also has to be maintained for free". If you agree, contact them below.


contact@flyingdevelopementstudio.com

Anonymous said...

Anoymous stop complaining my gosh you take up the entire chat

Anonymous said...

I would definitely rather it be free but I understand that the servers need to be paid for but I definetly agree with one of the people who commented that the subscription shouldn't be more than 10-20$ a year because then people would be drawn away from the whole multiplayer server. This is an AMAZING idea and this program is definetly coming along slowly.... But surely. Keep up the good ideas....

SkateEx said...

I Dislike the idea for Pay for a subscription infinite flight have a Ton of Players and all of them buy Planes and scenerys
Like me i bought all planes and scenerys

Dmitry Khabibulin said...

When waiting for an update? You talked about in July. But this did not happen.

Jack Sorrell said...

Under £5? If it is over that i cant buy a sub

John Humphries said...

Bring back the days of paying £40 for a game and getting everything this new way of games is a rip off and they know it they can make 2 or 3 times the amount now...shame its gone this way.

Anonymous said...

How about students? 25% of IF players are students, How they pay?
Im also a student myself

Anonymous said...

If we dont get this for free then hack it

Anonymous said...

Great attitude. Devs spend their time creating something you obviously want to play but you aren't willing to pay for that. Multiplayer is over and above what we already have. No one is forcing you to pay money to keep on playing the game you have today. There may be better ways of funding this than a subscription but some people's attitude towards this stinks. I hope the devs continue to turn a blind eye to such stupid comments!

Coolman said...

Hack the game and remove subscription or jailbreak the device so you get multiplayer for free.

Another thing: I have posted an idea saying DO NOT charge extra money for subscription!. Vote there and comment on it so we get it for free please!
Im trying to help other people so vote on it please!

Again: people who don't whine please read this: http://www.baekdal.com/opinion/how-inapp-purchases-has-destroyed-the-industry/

Coolman said...

Unfortunately, This is the only simulator that rips off customers by the subscription crap.

Madman said...

Good job Coolman I like you

BTW We pay for planes and regions so we should be rewarded with an enjoyable simulator, not waiting until we agree to pay so we could still enjoy Multiplayer

Madman said...

Anonymous guy that commented I hope the developers turn blind eye on stupid comments. Its not stupid, we are trying to make this a famous simulator. Being a company means you have to be persuasive and a few mobile games such as hayday and sky gamblers series which have multiplayer attracts many people and they dont even complain because it's free.

Coolman said...

Normally I hate people who whine that this plane/region must be free but this time I'm seriously disgusted at this business tactic I mean paying every month? Ridiculous are you devs out of your mind? We pay for planes and regions and now you expect us to pay for multiplayer?! ***holes

Madman said...

You devs use multiplayer to rip off cash despite the fact that IAPs are enough to keep the game going. I am disgusted at your deceptive way in business,
In my country(or every) you cannot use deceptive business tactics such as using subscription crap or IAPs to rip off cash from the people( you guys dont rip off cash using IAPs) sadly you devs expand your habit by making subscription ways.

Stop being that GREEDY

Coolman said...

If you devs want multiplayer to be a great success then make it free or if you want to be remembered as a greedy developer, It's a subscription that will help you

Coolman said...

Hmm.. Maybe the subscription should be toned. My idea is that the devs would make a free to play server with NO subscription and if a player wants a private server the player must subscribe to play and maintain the server.

I will only like it when It's toned down.
It could also give devs some money

Anonymous said...

Congratulations for you guys for a very good app. This idea of multiplayer game is really good, and i imagine that to put it in work takes a lot of work and cost that you have to solve, i paid for escenaries and aircrafts but i dont know if i could pay for a subscription, but rather i wish before all that, a realism in cities, aircraift like lights (ilumination), cabins and details in airports, for all that i could pay. You have really done a very good work i wish could see more development and details for keep flying great!

Oiyel Jaziri said...

how can I now multiplayer play.Bei me you can not.

Madman said...

How about those Sky Gamblers series? They have IAPs but free multiplayer and compared to this, their multiplayer is far better, with no subscription at all. And War Thunder they also have Free servers and unfortunately this is the only simulator that uses subscription.

Madman said...

Hey Multiplayer affects the game experience and you devs said that features that affects experience will be free and this time you broke your promise don't be liars ok!

Jacques Hong said...

Can you share the beta apk? I don't Find the beta!

Anonymous said...

WHEN WILL THE RELEASE DATE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I play X-Plane 10 too, with IVAO. I love it :D

Anonymous said...

x plane multiplayer I pad free this is rubbish

Anonymous said...

Why do we have to pay!!!! Assholes

John Humphries said...

I dont mind paying if they lick my balls and tell me that you love me ;-)

Anonymous said...

Well i can pay multiplayer but SINGLE PAYMENT A SUBSCRIBTION WILL ONLY CAUSE PROBLEMS OR BETTER FREE.

Anonymous said...

I love the app, Its fun and works very well. I am very excited to see what multiplayer will be like, and hopefully it wont be an upset for how long we've been waiting for it to come. having the app be 5 dollars along with 95% of the planes and all of the regions is a lot!! And I can understand because its not inexpensive to make an app like this. But If multiplayer were to come out to be 10 bucks a month, there is no fricking way, haha. But if it were to come out to be 2 or 3 bucks a month, then fine ill try it and see what its like. Or you guys could try to do a thing were we get to try it for a couple of days, lets say 3, and if we like it, we pay. If we don't like it, then screw it. Also one more thing, please try to add Logan Int'l airport!!

Anonymous said...

Iv'e been reading a lot of the comments and agree with most of them. One of them I want to expand on is the whole "real life" type of thing, even though this page is on the multiplayer subject. Im gonna start with taxiing. If u guys want to make it realistic about flying in general, a very big topic would be taxiing from a gate to a runway or the opposite. There are no yellow lines!! and no laid out places that tells you there is a gate! I have no idea if I would be taxiing into another plane, or parking my plane in a spot that just isn't a gate lol. My second thing is that you guys have the graphics of the plane, such as the spinning engines, the light options at night, the moving parts in the cockpit (737-700)! The great realistic's about flying the plane, such as if I were to lift up way to fast, the plane is gonna go up! If i were to turn really sharp and fast, the plane will turn as your command. But you just dont have the realistics about life its self, boarding, really long flights, emergencies, rain, clouds, etc. If you guys could put that in, its just gonna make people want to play it more!

Anonymous said...

I don't have any problem paying as long as I can do things like a 1 month purchase, 6 month purchase etc, but I hate the percentage and reputation idea. If I am paying 10 dollars a month, I do not want to be told someone else is better than me and be limited to tiny airstrips. I play every few days, so I dont want to be told what airports I can and cannot fly to. All I want is to fly in a realistic environment.

Anonymous said...

It's now August. Still waiting. And not happy.

Anonymous said...

Multiplayer is cool but guys more textureeeees!!! And instrument panel is sick its really hard to make instrument panel to work on cockpit?????

Madman said...

This app is a scam, done by sick people who have nothing else in their lives other than selfish greed

Anonymous said...

Guys, Multiplayer should not be played, If you do, You are going to push their greed further

Anonymous said...

Philippine Airlines pls

Anonymous said...

My opinion:
If they make us pay for Multiplayer (Subscription), they should make the planes free (for the regions they still can make it iAP).

ruparaw said...

May i know when will an estimated time the new multi-player version will be launch.... Iam very eager to feel the trill doo!

Batu Özler said...

How can i paid? Help pls.

Alex F said...

I can't afford a subscription for multiplayer

Alex F said...

I bought all of the planes and regions already.

Alex F said...

It should be a one time purchase. Not a subscription. PLEASE MAKE IT A ONE PURCHASE FOR LIKE $5.00 please

Alex F said...

How can I pay for multiplayer subscription. I'm a middle school student. PLEASE MAKE IT A ONE TIME PURCHASE OF $5.00 please. IM A MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT I CANT AFFORD A SUBSCRIPTION SO MAKE IT A ONE PURCHASE OF $5.00 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

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Rafandikha Rangga said...

It not fair if you have to pay for every single thing in this simulator because if you make an IF program at computer it won't be nice. Cause I've tried FSX and you only have to get the CD then everything is free. If you get a CD for it then you still have to pay. Its worthless. I'd rather play FSX or flight gear instead!

Ryanmine16 The killer said...

I need free multiplayer

C.K. Tan said...

Some more, the infinite flight mutiplayer can make 5 passenger aircraft(like A380,A320,Boeing 747,Boeing 737 and Boeing 787), 1 jet plane (like F-18), some small plane (like Cessna 172,Cessna 208...) for free if available for PC or tablet.

yida Cheng said...

How to incase the standing that I can use the big airplane

Mohamed R.Ahmed said...

Where is the download link

christian richardson said...

I'm saying the same thing as most people are saying the idea of subcribtions is vary jerky and stupid I mean we pay enough to get planes now we have to pay for live I mean if offline players want to play off line at least give them the ability to have air and ground traffic it's just vary unfair to meany of us players plus it takes for ever to load a subcribtion I like the game in all but the only thing it's missing is buildings live road traffic and commen sceans

christian richardson said...

You guys have to do something about these angry coustemers or in do time you business will go down the drain remmeber the coustemers always right make the ability to have a free subcribtion

Yusuf Şimşek said...

İyi günler ben Multiplayer satın almak istiyorum ama mobil servis sağlayıcısından mesaj geliyor gerçekleştiremiyoruz tekrar deneyin diyor Kaçkere denedim olmuyor 10.81 lik için

Shane Park said...

I'm only $15.00 But I payed it for per month and DOSENT work for pay Its says Velection code But We need Live free for in 1 week and after that pressing and 2 days for waiting But It pay Won't work but it's DOSENT work here But Solo up is boring like 100% I need play Mutiplayer So we need update on This month

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Well in my whole life I always buy Cheap tickets for travel.

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home2 home2 said...

The al idea is to. Be an expert and fly any plane, that is thier ideas to pay multiplayets, that bsd.

home2 home2 said...

The al idea is to. Be an expert and fly any plane, that is thier ideas to pay multiplayets, that bsd.

Unknown said...

If I buy 12 months live, I will get all the planes an regions?

Unknown said...

On valid live subscription

Shanawaz Shaikh said...

It is very unfair if we have to pay for every single thing in this simulator because if you make an IF program at computer it won't be nice. Cause I've tried FSX and you only have to get the CD then everything is free. If you get a CD for it then you still have to pay. Its worthless. I'd rather play FSX or flight gear instead!

Shanawaz Shaikh said...

It is very unfair if we have to pay for every single thing in this simulator because if you make an IF program at computer it won't be nice. Cause I've tried FSX and you only have to get the CD then everything is free. If you get a CD for it then you still have to pay. Its worthless. I'd rather play FSX or flight gear instead!

keving Kbidi said...

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Unknown said...

I love that you are charging a subscription fee, as it keeps all the "kiddies" out allows the serious players to enjoy the simulation. Keep up the good work!

Infinite flight said...

Does anyone know how to cancel the subscription on a apple product???

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